Comments on: Homeschooling Harmed http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/ Bringing political and moral clarity into the fog of political correctness! Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:20:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Don Roberts http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3420 Don Roberts Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:42:46 +0000 http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3420 Dave, I have always been amazed at any parent who could teach their children day in and day out. The strength and will power it takes to do this is incredible. BUT this year I assisted coaching varsity basketball at our local Christain school here in California. 7 of the eleven kids who were on the team were homeschooled. I saw virtually no motivation from these kids. We could not get them fired up at all. Our head coach and I talked about this all year and we "believe" that because they get raised without ever struggling to get things done because"mommy" is standing over their shoulder they can finsih when they get ready. If they get done early they can go outside, shoot baskets by themselves or play video games or whatever they do by themselves. They do not learn how to deal with things of this world and then they are thrust into the world. Please do not misunderstand me I believe we must protect our children from the "things of this world" but they must still be "in this world" If we do not teach our children how to do that early in life and not shelter them so much that they cannot become a light unto the world, as God has instructed us. Our children have grown up and were able to send our youngest son to Christian school his junior and senior years. We have pledged to do all we can to assist in sending our grandchildren to Chritsian schools so they can learn to be social with other Christian families and to here scriptures and interpretations of scripture from many Christian people. I certainly do NOT agree with the concept of having to have a credential to teach our own children. We do not need more government interference in our daily lives. I just took the opportunity to give my simple thoughts on homeschooling Don Roberts Sebastopol, Ca. Dave, I have always been amazed at any parent who could teach their children day in and day out. The strength and will power it takes to do this is incredible. BUT this year I assisted coaching varsity basketball at our local Christain school here in California. 7 of the eleven kids who were on the team were homeschooled. I saw virtually no motivation from these kids. We could not get them fired up at all. Our head coach and I talked about this all year and we “believe” that because they get raised without ever struggling to get things done because”mommy” is standing over their shoulder they can finsih when they get ready. If they get done early they can go outside, shoot baskets by themselves or play video games or whatever they do by themselves. They do not learn how to deal with things of this world and then they are thrust into the world. Please do not misunderstand me I believe we must protect our children from the “things of this world” but they must still be “in this world” If we do not teach our children how to do that early in life and not shelter them so much that they cannot become a light unto the world, as God has instructed us.
Our children have grown up and were able to send our youngest son to Christian school his junior and senior years. We have pledged to do all we can to assist in sending our grandchildren to Chritsian schools so they can learn to be social with other Christian families and to here scriptures and interpretations of scripture from many Christian people.
I certainly do NOT agree with the concept of having to have a credential to teach our own children. We do not need more government interference in our daily lives. I just took the opportunity to give my simple thoughts on homeschooling

Don Roberts
Sebastopol, Ca.

]]> By: Cliff Jones http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3407 Cliff Jones Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:50:13 +0000 http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3407 Dave, It has been a long time, life has a way of keeping us slammed, but I thought I had a few minutes, checked your blog and want to weigh in on this. I have done some research on this and the requirement to be a credentialed teacher to homeschool is not yet enforced as a result of the appelate courts decision, but it may be if it goes to the California Supreme Court. As I am sure you know by now, James Dobson is outraged and taking action, and I just saw that our Govenor is now against it and calling for action as well. I don't think that this ruling has a snowball's chance in Hell of actually standing when it reaches the Cal. Supreme Court. We have a reputation of having wacky appelate courts, who are often overturned. Consequentally, I would not dispair, but I think every freedom loving citizen should make their voice, email, fax, phone call and letter heard by as many legislators and Supreme Court Justices as possible, or we will be in a world of hurt. Gob Bless those who take action, Cliff Dave,

It has been a long time, life has a way of keeping us slammed, but I thought I had a few minutes, checked your blog and want to weigh in on this. I have done some research on this and the requirement to be a credentialed teacher to homeschool is not yet enforced as a result of the appelate courts decision, but it may be if it goes to the California Supreme Court.

As I am sure you know by now, James Dobson is outraged and taking action, and I just saw that our Govenor is now against it and calling for action as well. I don’t think that this ruling has a snowball’s chance in Hell of actually standing when it reaches the Cal. Supreme Court. We have a reputation of having wacky appelate courts, who are often overturned. Consequentally, I would not dispair, but I think every freedom loving citizen should make their voice, email, fax, phone call and letter heard by as many legislators and Supreme Court Justices as possible, or we will be in a world of hurt.

Gob Bless those who take action,

Cliff

]]> By: Citizen Tom http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3406 Citizen Tom Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:08:09 +0000 http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3406 I wrote a post on this and linked to some other new articles and to Focus on the Family's article on this. There is a petition to sign. http://citizentom.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/homeschooling-and-the-california-courts/ I wrote a post on this and linked to some other new articles and to Focus on the Family’s article on this. There is a petition to sign.
http://citizentom.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/homeschooling-and-the-california-courts/

]]> By: Carolyn http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3400 Carolyn Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:21:42 +0000 http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3400 Hi Dave- you know, it amamzes me that women have the right to kill thier children, but they don't have the right to educate them. I think these "judges" need to read up on the test scores of homeschoolers compared to those of government schools. Oh well- I look to the day that they try this in every state. Like the gay marriage movement- all it takes is one state to conquer- then they all may crumble. On the brighter side- you and Buzz ought to check this one out http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php/3207/ God Bless you Dave- and hang in there California!! Carolyn Hi Dave- you know, it amamzes me that women have the right to kill thier children, but they don’t have the right to educate them. I think these “judges” need to read up on the test scores of homeschoolers compared to those of government schools. Oh well- I look to the day that they try this in every state. Like the gay marriage movement- all it takes is one state to conquer- then they all may crumble. On the brighter side- you and Buzz ought to check this one out http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php/3207/
God Bless you Dave- and hang in there California!! Carolyn

]]> By: Buzz Patterson http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3398 Buzz Patterson Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:43:28 +0000 http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/223/homeschooling-harmed/#comment-3398 Brother Dave We home school our 9-year old daughter here in the LA area. As you said, nothing about California surprises me but many things trouble me. This is one of the most troubling things we've encountered out here. If we could be sure that our children would receive a moral and grounded education we wouldn't need to educate them ourselves. We will not turn over their future to the State of California. Thanks for all you do my friend! Buzz Brother Dave

We home school our 9-year old daughter here in the LA area. As you said, nothing about California surprises me but many things trouble me. This is one of the most troubling things we’ve encountered out here. If we could be sure that our children would receive a moral and grounded education we wouldn’t need to educate them ourselves. We will not turn over their future to the State of California.

Thanks for all you do my friend!
Buzz

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